--- title: Priscilla and John Lee Dumas Fell Into a Burning Ring of Fire description: "Entrepreneurship is a burning thing. And it makes a fiery ring. 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And it makes a fiery ring. Seriously though, in this episode [Priscilla](https://www.linkedin.com/in/priscillamckinney/) talks with [John Lee Dumas](https://www.linkedin.com/in/eofire/) (or JLD) about two of her favorite things: entrepreneurship and podcasting. **![John Dumas of Entrepreneurs on Fire](https://blog.littlebirdmarketing.com/hs-fs/hubfs/blog/2019-blogs/20190517-priscilla-and-john-lee-dumas-fell-into-a-burning-ring-of-fire-podcast/dumas-circle-headshot.png?width=250&name=dumas-circle-headshot.png)** > *"They say, 'But John, how am I supposed to know who my most common listeners are?'* > > *And the answer is: you engage with them. When they send you an email, or a tweet, or an Instagram dm, or any kind of a message, and they say, 'Hey great show' or 'Hey thanks for the content' or 'Hey, I hate your voice' or any of those things, I always love to write back and say: “Hey, how’d you hear about me?”* In a [recent episode of Ponderings from the Perch,](https://podcast.littlebirdmarketing.com) Priscilla and John discuss FireNation, his listener network, and the importance of listening to the audience. They also talk about SMART goals, brand-building, and mastering productivity during their jam-packed (fire-filled!) interview. John Lee Dumas is the host of [Entrepreneurs on Fire](https://www.eofire.com/podcast/), an award winning podcast where he interviews inspiring entrepreneurs every Monday and drops value bombs every Thursday. 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